Kestrel is a psychotherapist, astrologer, and one of my closest friends. Our conversation builds on last week’s episode as we discuss her life-long involvement in the climbing community and the parallels and intersections with her work as a therapist. Our conversation is far-reaching, covering everything from the therapeutic relationship and process, the complexities of grief, the contagious nature of vulnerability and the state of our personal & collective evolution.

Find out more about Kestrel at kestrelneathawk.com.

Kestrel’s Book Recommendation: Buddha’s Warriors by Mikel Dunham and the Dalai Lama

Songs featured: “Border Country” The Paper Stars and “Feelin’ Alright” by Joe Cocker

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